Post a picture of your gun and the experts can tell you more about what you have. I am just passing on what I have read or the great Winchester experts on this forum have told me. Winchester were trying to go cheap at the end of production of the model 12 and there maybe some cast or cheaper parts in the later model 12s. The new cast receivers were used on all the post y2000000 guns. All model 12s manufactured after the 1968 law had to have a Y prefix. Mine was built of the pre-64 parts after the 1968 gun control act. I have a super pigeon with a Y196xxxx serial number and have seen later serial numbers on guns without a Y. The receivers were in a bin and the first one picked up was what was used. Description: Remingtons first side ejecting repeating shotgun Introduction Year: 1931 Year Discontinued: 1949 Total Production: Approximately: 196,000. Remington has recently told a few people that the 1100s started with six (6) digit serial numbers. If you could assist, I would greatly appreciate it. After looking through links on the page, it appears to have been manufactured between JAugbased on other serial numbers I looked at. R November C 1934 I have a 20-gauge Sportsman, Serial S5249. I couldn’t find it on the website with the webpage provided. The '3' after the RC is an Assembly number, whatever that means. It has not been repaired - at least, not at the Remington facility. The guns were not always built based on serial numbers. Virginian wrote: What Wulfman has told you is 100 correct except that they started in 63 instead of 64. Reply 3 is correct - your shotgun was built in November 1934. The end of production in 1963-4 ended with numbers 196xxxx. You have not said if your gun has a factory rib or a field gun with no rib. When Winchester stopped production of the model 12, there were several hundred receivers and parts set aside for the custom shop to make special order guns. Any assistance would be very much appreciated. The gun in question is in near mint condition and has some real nice wood on it. What's the real difference between a post 64 gun and a "Y" gun. Is the value of a post 64 but pre "Y" less than a comparable pre 64 gun? I believe "Y" model serial numbers started at 2 million so what is the story on post 64 pre "Y" guns? Were there Model 12's made after 1964 made using the same components as the pre 64's?ĭid all post 64 guns use the investment castings and cheaper components. He does not specifically mention "Y" models prior to serial number 2,000,000 and this particular gun is alleged to have been made in 1971 and has a black pistol grip cap with no lettering on it. In Stadt's book he says "Trap, Skeet and Field: 12 Gauge (1972-1976)" "Production guns with rectangular post ribs, engine turned bolts and carriers, new checking patterns, and a new metal pistol grip cap saying "Winchester Repeating Arms" were introduced in 1972" He goes on to say "These new guns were made from investment castings." There is one available that is post 64 but not a "Y" model.
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